For Marek's clean up, is DC& R just as good as Oxine as a disinfectant?

[Taylorbrood]

I don't have direct experience but I have read that some people have sprayed Odoban to kill the Mareks.

I called the company and DC&R does not kill Mareks, they said if its not on the list it wont kill it

 

[VictoriaThompson]

http://www.revivalanimal.com/Oxine-Fogger-and-Oxine-AH.html

http://www.revivalanimal.com/articles/how-to-use-oxine-ah.html

http://www.shagbarkbantams.com/oxine.htm

http://www.heavensentranch.com/poultryhealth.htm

I have no idea about the product you are asking about, but after doing months of research the only thing I will use here is the activated form of Oxine. Not activated it can be used for many thing, but activated it kills Marek's first application. Bleach will also work, but it takes many cleaning with it, as bleach is not so good at sinking below the surface. You also need just about a 1-1 solution mix of the bleach and the water, apply with a sprayer, let sit for 15 - 20 mins. for max saturation, then rinse with a powerwasher or hose. Do it again and again and again, until You know every crack and crevase has been saturated and rinsed many times. If you have bare wood.....ooph! You can clean with either thing but to be honest, I would white wash it afterwards. Either product, you will need either a face mask or an ambulance, user's choice. Ask me how I know that one, lol!

Quick lime would be the easier method of cleaning the ground and then rototilling it in. This needs to sit for a week, after doing it. You could also use the activated Oxine on the ground but I would do a few applications of it to be sure. Now something I have been thinking about for use here if I ever decide to quit, cull and start over. A heat gun. Time consuming, pretty good electric bill here in the NE, but Marek's is killed dead by temp extremes. If you had know before the miserable cold we had this past winter, you could have culled and let the cold take care of the Marek's and been ready for new chicks about now. Since that's not an option now, a heat gun , like you'd use to remove paint would be a really good option. Again, be careful!!! You want to heat the wood to below kindling temperature, not char it. Make sure if you are going to try this you have a spray bottle of water right with you! You heat it until you just see wisps of smoke and then move on. If you see glowing red, hit it with the spray bottle of water. Did I say that this could be an interesting project? Lol, yeah it can be but it would work. I had read of another person on BYC who was using one of those ice melters to go around their property to kill the Marek's and did some research on the heat and found out it does and will work! Of course you have to make sure you have no infected birds on your property first. The only other thing I have found, through researching Marek's killing, is an ozone generator. Pricey and probably not even feasible for a chicken house. It would have to be made totally air tight for this to work.

Like I said on the other thread, you're kind of between a rock and a hard place with this situation Pigcoon. There really isn't any easy way around it.

 

[VictoriaThompson]

When you say extreme, how cold would it have to be to kill Mareks in a porous floor?

 

[VictoriaThompson]

http://www.revivalanimal.com/Oxine-Fogger-and-Oxine-AH.html

http://www.revivalanimal.com/articles/how-to-use-oxine-ah.html

http://www.shagbarkbantams.com/oxine.htm

http://www.heavensentranch.com/poultryhealth.htm

I have no idea about the product you are asking about, but after doing months of research the only thing I will use here is the activated form of Oxine. Not activated it can be used for many thing, but activated it kills Marek's first application. Bleach will also work, but it takes many cleaning with it, as bleach is not so good at sinking below the surface. You also need just about a 1-1 solution mix of the bleach and the water, apply with a sprayer, let sit for 15 - 20 mins. for max saturation, then rinse with a powerwasher or hose. Do it again and again and again, until You know every crack and crevase has been saturated and rinsed many times. If you have bare wood.....ooph! You can clean with either thing but to be honest, I would white wash it afterwards. Either product, you will need either a face mask or an ambulance, user's choice. Ask me how I know that one, lol!

Quick lime would be the easier method of cleaning the ground and then rototilling it in. This needs to sit for a week, after doing it. You could also use the activated Oxine on the ground but I would do a few applications of it to be sure. Now something I have been thinking about for use here if I ever decide to quit, cull and start over. A heat gun. Time consuming, pretty good electric bill here in the NE, but Marek's is killed dead by temp extremes. If you had know before the miserable cold we had this past winter, you could have culled and let the cold take care of the Marek's and been ready for new chicks about now. Since that's not an option now, a heat gun , like you'd use to remove paint would be a really good option. Again, be careful!!! You want to heat the wood to below kindling temperature, not char it. Make sure if you are going to try this you have a spray bottle of water right with you! You heat it until you just see wisps of smoke and then move on. If you see glowing red, hit it with the spray bottle of water. Did I say that this could be an interesting project? Lol, yeah it can be but it would work. I had read of another person on BYC who was using one of those ice melters to go around their property to kill the Marek's and did some research on the heat and found out it does and will work! Of course you have to make sure you have no infected birds on your property first. The only other thing I have found, through researching Marek's killing, is an ozone generator. Pricey and probably not even feasible for a chicken house. It would have to be made totally air tight for this to work.

Like I said on the other thread, you're kind of between a rock and a hard place with this situation Pigcoon. There really isn't any easy way around it.

 

[VictoriaThompson]

This sounds very promising. How would you get oxine out of a porous floor after its done its job? And spraying outside, what are the effects on grass, plants, other animals etc.. ?

 

[kimspangrude]

I would also like to know the answer to this and the question about how cold temps have to be to kill Marek’s. My other question is this: one chicken showed symptoms of Marek’s and became totally paralyzed. I had her euthanized but she had been with my six other hens for a day. Do I need to euthanize all of them if they aren’t showing any symptoms?

 

[Eggcessive]

Many people who have Mareks in their flocks recommend Virkon-S which is available in tablets online. It is added to water to disninfect coops and equipment and kills Mareks virus. It is available through Amazon Prime with free shipping, and less expensive from other places w/o free shipping:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088OKF1E/?tag=backy-20

https://www.qcsupply.com/virkon-s-d...LTFe7aNVabvy7L_sRWWUmrbDlRN7j-YxoCN-EQAvD_BwE

 

[kimspangrude]

Thank you for this suggestion. When you say it is added to water, are you including the hen’s drinking water?

 

[Eggcessive]

Here is some reading about Vircon S:
http://virkon.com/products-applicat...on-s/surface-and-farm-equipment-disinfection/

https://www.qcsupply.com/340340-virkon-s-broad-spectrum-disinfectant.html

 

[Rickey Lynn]

We are using Virkon S after losing our entire flock to Marek's. Not the cheapest way to go but it does effectively kill Marek's and can even be sprayed on the ground to disinfect it as well. We will be continuing to use it as a prophylactic occasional spray since it kill just about every possible virus and bacteria. Here is a link to what it does: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.qcsupply.com/media/pdf/Virkon_Poultry.pdf