Chinese x Embden goose crosses breeding question

[QueenintheNorth]

Last spring I adopted a handful of goslings - 3 x Embden and 2 x embdens crossed with what appears to be a Chinese goose. They are absolutely GORGEOUS!

So out of the Embden trio I have two males and a female
My female embdenX is a beautiful brown with beautiful brown/Hazel eyes.
My male embdenX is a gorgeous light grey. They both have knobs/orange beaks with lots of black freckles.
I also have an older (3 years) Pilgrim female.

How would you breed them? Do I put the embdenXes together or will they all just come out brown? If I cross the female embdenX back to an embden male could I potentially get some greys like with the one boy? What about if I breed the male embdenX back with the female embden? Will that toss some greys? (Of course, I want to breed her with one of the purebreds, so I probably wouldn't do that.) Would it just be total chaotic fun to breed the Pilgrim female to the grey embden male?Or would that get ugly?

BTW - Where did the grey even come from?!

(Side note: Both are a bit knobbier now than they were in these photos.)

 

[Miss Lydia]

Anything to do with color and genetics I call on @Pyxis hopefully she'll be on today.
Your geese are lovely.

 

[Pyxis]

Unfortunately this is one I can't help with - Chinese geese are actually not descended from Grey Lags like the rest of the domestic breeds, so they have different color genetics. They are instead descended from the Swan goose. I really don't know what happens when you cross the color genetics like this, unfortunately.

 

[QueenintheNorth]

Unfortunately this is one I can't help with - Chinese geese are actually not descended from Grey Lags like the rest of the domestic breeds, so they have different color genetics. They are instead descended from the Swan goose. I really don't know what happens when you cross the color genetics like this, unfortunately.

Thanks for your input!
I guess I'll just have to experiment and see what happens!

 

[Miss Lydia]

I bet they'll be beautiful!
Hope you'll come back often and show pictures plus new goslings when you hatch.

 

[GeeseMama]

Last spring I adopted a handful of goslings - 3 x Embden and 2 x embdens crossed with what appears to be a Chinese goose. They are absolutely GORGEOUS!

So out of the Embden trio I have two males and a female
My female embdenX is a beautiful brown with beautiful brown/Hazel eyes.
My male embdenX is a gorgeous light grey. They both have knobs/orange beaks with lots of black freckles.
I also have an older (3 years) Pilgrim female.

How would you breed them? Do I put the embdenXes together or will they all just come out brown? If I cross the female embdenX back to an embden male could I potentially get some greys like with the one boy? What about if I breed the male embdenX back with the female embden? Will that toss some greys? (Of course, I want to breed her with one of the purebreds, so I probably wouldn't do that.) Would it just be total chaotic fun to breed the Pilgrim female to the grey embden male?Or would that get ugly?

BTW - Where did the grey even come from?!

(Side note: Both are a bit knobbier now than they were in these photos.)

They are gorgeous. Good luck

 

[QueenintheNorth]

I bet they'll be beautiful!
Hope you'll come back often and show pictures plus new goslings when you hatch.

Will do! I guess someone's gotta start the research.

 

[iambebabeba]

Last spring I adopted a handful of goslings - 3 x Embden and 2 x embdens crossed with what appears to be a Chinese goose. They are absolutely GORGEOUS!

So out of the Embden trio I have two males and a female
My female embdenX is a beautiful brown with beautiful brown/Hazel eyes.
My male embdenX is a gorgeous light grey. They both have knobs/orange beaks with lots of black freckles.
I also have an older (3 years) Pilgrim female.

How would you breed them? Do I put the embdenXes together or will they all just come out brown? If I cross the female embdenX back to an embden male could I potentially get some greys like with the one boy? What about if I breed the male embdenX back with the female embden? Will that toss some greys? (Of course, I want to breed her with one of the purebreds, so I probably wouldn't do that.) Would it just be total chaotic fun to breed the Pilgrim female to the grey embden male?Or would that get ugly?

BTW - Where did the grey even come from?!

(Side note: Both are a bit knobbier now than they were in these photos.)

I have a similar cross and you can get many variations of colors. You can’t see it in the picture but the white male has grey chaps I have even gotten lavender looking offspring from the next generation of crosses.

 

[QueenintheNorth]

I have a similar cross and you can get many variations of colors. You can’t see it in the picture but the white male has grey chaps I have even gotten lavender looking offspring from the next generation of crosses.

Oh fun!!! Yay! I can't wait to see what they produce. It would be nice to have some rainbow geese.