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This is what APA judge Walt Leonard said: The APA does not care what people raise. An APA show will use the APA Standard to judge birds in an APA show. If birds are not accepted by the APA they will be judged as a non standard breed and the judge will be just guessing if they don't have a...

Don here is my rollee pollee fat Dun Bantam pullet. She has zero USA Bantam Orp blood. She is from my BUSTOFF line. Somewhere in BUSTOFF's lineage there is Bantam. And when she wants too, and is not being lazy, she can actually stand up and look like a Banty Orp. Except she is a Dun. She...

I know I learn alot from Doug's seminar that he puts on every first week in Jan. Jack Patterson is Doug's mentor and he usually goes threw a row of birds on display and tells everyone how they are critiqued in an APA judges eye. Jon Patterson (no relation to Jack) also goes threw DQ'ing traits...

I never heard of any judge asking a breeder if their bird was UK. Yet alone DQ'ing a UK bird. Have you Don?

It may have been Del's she was talking about. I know for sure his daughter had them.

I remember a conversation I had with the UOC Secretary. She said Cecil's Bantams were in the hands of his daughter back then. It has been a few years since that conversation. I MAY have misunderstood what she told me. But he did raise bantams too. What varieties I do not know.