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This bird did not come from Thomas line of birds. I posted this pic 3 years ago. Behind the hen is her daughter. Who looked just like this girl until her first molt. Then she looked more like an Exchequer. You can see a glimpse of her in the back. Until the APA accepts them or any of these...

Davy is helping some here learn what is and what isn't a true MOTTLED. What the APA calls them is what they are. edited by staff

For those out there who understand the APA will decide what is and what isn't a true MOTTLED. There are other breeds accepted in the APA Standard which are MOTTLEDS. The fact is I MADE this variety of Orps 3 years ago. Before anyone else had them. I am voicing my opinion of what I learned...

According to the standards for APA accepted Mottled breeds like Cochins, a Mottled should have White heart shapes at the tips of their feathers. I hatched out 2 of what your calling a Mottled two years ago. They may have the Mottled gene, but far as I am concerned I called them back then...

I thought it was Paul McCartney who had Wings. lol

We all can learn alot from Bob. I wish we could talk him into breeding Orps. But I am sure he has his hands full with Rocks and Reds. Thanks for the great advice Bob. Many can learn from your (is it now 50 plus years you have had birds?) wisdom and experience. And for more of Bob go to his...

To bad here in the states it just took a couple of lousy breeders to give them a bad rep.

Harry no one here in the USA knows the Lav genetics like you. I remember when some here feared using Blues to make Lavs. And you took the fear outta that mix. Nice bird!

I was accused of "name dropping" on Bob Blosi's HERITAGE LARGE FOWL thread. And Bob, who is one of the best APA Plymouth Rock & Rhode Island breeder's on BYC, came in and pointed out just what you are sayin. It is important to know the prospective line you want from a given breeder. OR IF you...

The thought these BBS Orps are the first UK Orps brought into this hemisphere in 50 years is simply not true. Don told me of a fella who brought in UK Buffs over a dozen years ago. He got eggs from Canada before they tightened the bio security laws. Whether it was "legally" imported eggs is...

There are "GOOD" people in this hobby and there are "BAD" people in this hobby. Too often I see & read the bad folks getting promoted as the breeders to get birds from. It is refreshing to hear a story of the GOOD people getting some credit for helping out those in need. RENIE is one of our...

Multiple APA judges who are Orp breeders have told me to "breed them as big as you can make em". This has been the attitude here in the USA since the 40's. When Doc Clevenger shown his "undefeated" 14+ lbs Buff Orp hen back in the 50's she never got DQ'd. Good luck trying to change the APA...

Ok Renie is now able to log on. Thank you for those who tried to help her

Dan knows I am an Orpington guy. And he sent these pics to me via email. The pics said BLACKS IN GERMANY & COLUMBIAN IN GERMANY. Last I checked there are no Columbian Australorps.

What is interesting, is alot of the UK Orp breeders go to the Germans for new blood. And I remember a few pics Dan Honour sent me last winter from a show in Germany. And many of those Orps looked more closely to our APA breed of Orp then the UK breed. Those were some very nice birds. Nice...

I am sure I will be corrected on some of what I have to say about the idea of accepting new Orp varieties to the APA. From what I was told, one would have to have raised that variety for 5 years I believe. THEN you all have to show those varieties at an APA sanctioned show. 2 points of issue...

Looks like some nice boys Renie. I really like the Blue boy at the bottom of the page. He has alot goin for him. Keep an eye on him.

IF it is a NICER Black Orp, you would get nicer Jubilees. Went to Crossroads, and talked to an older fella who learned from a 90+ year old English guy and learned that Black Orps were used to better the quality of Jubilees. That guy is making Banty Jubilees down in Louisiana Good luck and show...

Great start with your Choc program Kathy. CONGRATS!! Not to hijack this thread OR break any BYC rules. I have an interesting story about a one who sent out mixed breed hatchery eggs as their own purebred eggs. PM me IF you like to know more.

Don C told me of a fella on the east coast who imported Buff Orp eggs about 20 to 25 years ago. Don said this guy had sold a few of his culls. One particular cull Don told me he seen was near 16 lbs Buff cockerel that was snatched up by a well known upper Midwest Buff Orp breeder. This...