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Bantamish. My phoenixes are kinda small, but still large fowl, the cochins are bantam. Mine were barred cochins, so they actually look a lot like that male you posted.

My cochinxphoenix crosses get thin feathers like that

Oh, okay. If he'd been in the second pic, I was going to say it just takes some time sometimes. My boy Odysseus looked like a game bird for the longest time before suddenly having an amazing tail one day

How old is king? Is he the one in the back of the second pic?

They seem recessive-ish based on my mixes. Nice tails at a glance, but not phoenix tails