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  1. dcrumrin

    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    We'll see. The research from Crawford, Carefoot, Hutt, and Brereton is all I can go by, and some of it may be obsolete by now. We will see. I am doing the genetic testing for recessive white to see if there are genes there to segregate. If not, then I'm at a standstill until I come up with...
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    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    My understanding is that recessive white dilutes shank color, although in the epidermis, making for lighter colored shanks, with lighter, or transparent scales covering the legs which can be darker in the dermal layer, same thing with dominant white . Mottling supposedly does the same thing, as...
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    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    I have figured a better explanation. I've been doing a lot of research on shank colors and white plumages. The hen is blue shanked but totally white. According to my research if she were c/c recessive white, it would give her lighter shanks. This makes sense since I believe that she comes from...
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    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    That is my previous experience, although I have seen many saying that recessive white leaks red quoting Grant Brereton. I have to do research on that. It appears that there are several recessive whites, known and unknown, and that some may be less effective in creating pure white than others...
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    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    According to what you know/have heard, is recessive white leaking red common?
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    Brian Reeder talks a lot about white chickens and has good information at https://brianreederbreeder.blogspot.com/search?q=recessive+white According to Reeder, recessive white should cover both pheomelanin and eumelanin. Other genetics people suggest that the main form of recessive white (c)...
  7. dcrumrin

    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    Obviously, there needs to be test mating done to clarify what is underneath the recessive white. I just haven't done it since I recently got the birds and have been hatching every egg I can. I am assuming that the best choices for testing would be to a mille fleur or a black since those are more...
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    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    Possibly but I don't think they exist in Booted Bantams in the US, only a very few here and there in d'Uccle,
  9. dcrumrin

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    I have gold neck and though this is somewhat similar, it only effects the head and neck and comes in when hormones start being produced in males. It's also very light, even lighter than the dominant white effects on gold.
  10. dcrumrin

    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    I thought of that, the only bird I could possibly get would be a white columbian. Not sure if the Co gene would also help, some people say it would. I would rather not introduce a new breed since this line is well typed for the breed. I may have to. I guess the question I'm wondering is if there...
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    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    I have a pair of White booted bantams that are known to be recessive white homozygous, but the underlying colors are unknown. In many white booted, the underlying color is mille fleur, but I don't know that. In hatching out chicks I've discovered that what I assume to be males are expressing red...
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    The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

    Yes, but Lavender effects pheomelanin AND eumelanin. This is my question. Will the two diluters have a double effect on the gold ground color? And then the question is, is it a double effect? ig has less effect on ground color, i.e. the "lemon" color or "cream, where lavender effect is a "straw'...
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    Has there been any real research into the effects of lav/lav ig/ig genes? Are they epistatic? hypostatic? Or is there any anecdotal evidence? i.e. are the dilution effects cumulative? The only breed of chicken I know with both genes are the opal legbars. It's clear from looking at them that the...
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