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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Lol my husband quotes that one to me every time I'm up late responding to threads on this forum.
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    It really depends on where you live. Some neighborhoods have at least one Karen living there who will take it upon herself to report her law-breaking neighbor. Know what I hate most about the mail service? 80% of what they deliver to you is unsolicited junk mail, and you can't opt out of it...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Rofl I know right? I read a 1 star review on yelp for a restaurant - they were mad because some people walked into the restaurant without their masks on, and so the reviewer confronted them about how they were putting her immunocompromised friend at risk. Meanwhile they're surrounded by people...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Eh, it's a 3 year old video. I don't think youtubers read comments posted more than a month or so after a video is posted. Besides, they're just quoting the CDC, not making their own claims. It's the CDC that needs a comments section.
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I agree that veggies are always better from your own garden. Unfortunately, living the arctic tundra of New England, our growing season is tragically short. And my stupid rental property has pretty poor soil, so while I do what I can to amend it, it takes a lot of work just to squeeze a small...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I did hear something about that, though now I can't remember what the context was. Something to do with limiting when people could grow crops on their fields, and saying that if you're not supposed to be growing crops during that time, then you have no reason to be putting manure from your own...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Ok wait, I know this is getting off topic, but how does eating your encapsulated placenta risk transferring bacteria to your baby? The placenta was feeding the baby while it was in utero, and the placenta is dessicated immediately to prevent spoilage, so where are these foreign bacteria coming...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    The article I originally linked to is actually pretty accurate from what I can tell. If it's unbalanced it's because the source is a publication that specializes in news related to agriculture, so naturally they're primarily concerned with how it would affect the industry. It doesn't actually...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I've often heard carcasses referred to as "meat", especially during the butchering process. I'm not going to argue semantics. The similarity I was noting referred to the way the raw flesh of a pig being butchered looks similar to human flesh. I wouldn't know what a cannibal's dinner looks like...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    There is a spectrum of farming practices. Not every production farm is a CAFO. People like Joel Salatin raise lots of animals on pasture in healthy, sanitary outdoor conditions and still make plenty of money doing it. I get all my meat from a local farm that does the same thing. Perhaps there...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I actually heard it through word of mouth; I don't watch mainstream news anymore, partly for the reasons you stated and also because it's all incedibly partisan and selective in what they report, not to mention sensationalist. But presumably someone at some point referred to it as a bill, and...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Never seen an autopsy? I was thinking more about how a pig looks when it's being butchered, which I have seen. I wasn't comparing cooked pork with prepared human meat.
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I actually think keeping pigs indoors is pretty inhumane, and probably less sanitary than outdoors because the moist, dark, crowded conditions foster the growth of pathogens. Hence all the antibiotics factory farmed animals are given. I think animals, particularly those we raise in captivity...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Not my governor - I don't live in CO! Although my state also has an idiot for a governor. Whatever, I'm moving out of state anyway. So done with the local politics here.
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    I don't eat pork either, although I can't say I have any real rational reason not to. I just feel like it's gross. I'm not a follower of any of the Abrahamic religions but somehow the consensus among them suggests maybe they're on to something. Pig meat looks too much like human meat, and I've...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Yes, I feel like the people who write these bills/ballot initiatives have no idea how farms work. I dont' get why someone would be opposed to a stanchion? I am opposed to most factory farming methods; my standards for meat and dairy production are pretty high, and I pay a premium for the...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Yes, and in addition to the consumer complaints, imagine how much more expensive it would be to produce animals for meat if you had to raise them for years longer than you currently do before butchering them. Most meat chickens are butchered at 8 weeks; the CO bill defines a chicken's lifespan...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Excellent points! There's nothing about banning pets, but most dog and cat food is made from the same livestock animals, except that ironically, to keep prices down that meat is usually coming from the worst CAFO operations rather than there being organic, pasture-raised, or locally-sourced...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Very informative - I suspected that the italics/brackets was indicating deletions but it took me a few confused minutes comparing it to the article I originally linked to to figure it out. Good to hear clarification with someone who has experience reading and writing legalese. I take your...
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    Oregon bill seeks to criminalize breeding/raising livestock for meat

    Yes that makes sense. I just wanted to clarify in case anyone wasn't aware and might think that criminalizing instances of actual abuse might be a redeeming factor for the new proposal.
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