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    Livestock guardian dogs

    They are "hair sheep", raised strictly for the meat. They don't smell as bad as male goats, but Rams CAN be dangerous Mine was about 250 lbs of bad attitude Sam the Ram: He liked showing that 4 X 4 who was the BOSS Quote: I can't argue with that These are about a week old:
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    Quote: That's pretty much correct. Give them any semi- sheltered place with a roof and mostly out of direct wind, maybe with some straw to lay on and they will be happy. Mine always slept wherever the sheep did.
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    Quote: One of my males would sleep on bare dirt in freezing rain, then get up and shake off the ice
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    He's going to be a big boy
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    Quote: Yes I have chickens, but the dogs are for the sheep. Almost all the Maremma owners and breeders I know of have either sheep or goats They are much more rare, and tend to be expensive, whereas crossbred Pyrs are cheap and abundent
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    Quote: That's not really "guarding" That's "reacting" Any yard dog can do that
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    LOL Now you want to play word games, while at the same time ignoring the fact that the words "Livestock Guardian Dogs" have a SPECIFIC meaning in terms of the breeds. One more time, CALLING your GSP a "LGD" doesn't mean its so. Unless they are born with the INSTINCTS, it's not the same, and...
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    Quote: They dont need to be "taught" to herd. They only need to be taught of OBEY COMMANDS If your premise was correct, ANY breed could be taught to herd as well as any other breed, when that is simply not how things work
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    That's hardly "recent"
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    Quote: Its a HUNTING dog standing in a field. It's NOT an ":LGD" just because it chases off other animals, and doesn't kill the chickens Shoveling dirt into the back of a Yugo won't make it a DUMP TRUCK Calling a dog an "LGD" doesn't mean it IS. The term has a MEANING...
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    You don't have to "teach" a true LGD guarding behavior. That's the whole point of those years of selective breeding for thatspecific behavior It's just like the way you don't have to teach a HUNTING dog to "point" or a HERDING dog to "herd" Quote: Let's just stick to discussing this TOPIC...
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    All that rhetoric doesn't change the REALITY that the term "LGD" refers to SPECIFIC BREEDS of dogs. Guardian breeds were developed by hundreds if not thousands of years of selective breeding, and NOT ONE of those breeds were developed for POULTRY Pointers and Border Collies are NOT...
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    Quote: Pretending those dogs are truly "guarding" the birds won't make it so,nor will calling them LGD's magically change their breeding The term "LGD" has a specific meaning and all the yard dogs in the world won't change that. Why not just admit they are exhibiting TERRITORIAL behavior...
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    Quote: That still doesn't make them well suited to "guarding" birds LGD's are more active at might when the birds are asleep, and SHOULD be confined, while most birds free range. Plus most of the breeds named on this thread are not even remotely "LGD's" Yard dogs that don't kill birds are not...
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