Bob Gilbert via facebook;
Pure Nelson Bob. Second generation from orginal pair from Don. This guy is from a brother/sister mating. His sire is the good "flat backed" male you have seen a photo of on my wall.
One thing that I see right away is that they don't have yellow legs. (If that's not genetic, Maybe you can fix that with adding corn to their diet) Also, They need to carry their width of back all the way back. I always try to think of a cinder block shape. I am starting to see a lot of reds...